Meritocratic Isles

The Agora => Thomasian Plaza => : hippish people November 24, 2008, 08:11:39 PM

: Freedom of the Press???
: hippish people November 24, 2008, 08:11:39 PM
In light of recent debates I thought it only fitting to bring up the ever debatable topic of the freedom of the press. Should you have it in your country? If so, when and how can it be limited? If not, why? Should reporters be charged with treason for criticizing the government? Should reporters be forced to give up their sources? I am intrested to hear your take on this controversial issue.

: Re: Freedom of the Press???
: King Chester November 24, 2008, 09:48:24 PM
Ahhh, Queen Harmony....  Are WE being egotistical, or were you thinking of US as you penned this topic?

Let US start from a theological opinion a state that only God is unlimited, and mankind's free press must have some limitations.  WE wish to question you about limitations on the Press.

1.  Should the press present disinformation to fool it's nation's enemies?
2.  Should the press not print information sensitive to it's nation's security?
3.  Other than in an editorial section, should the press favor a political candidate or party?
4.  Should the press print false stories other than disinformation to confound the nation's enemies?

For the New York Times, in the U.S.A., the answers appear to be:  No, No, Yes and Yes.

: Re: Freedom of the Press???
: Kadoshim November 28, 2008, 08:25:17 AM
1. No, but by not printing information sensitive to it's nation's security, it reaches a balance of the people's trust in the press and national security.
2. No, see above.
3. While I prefer reading articles with little bias, the press has the right to have a political favorites just as a person does.
4. Could you please explain this a bit further?

: Re: Freedom of the Press???
: King Chester November 28, 2008, 11:44:22 PM
1.  Really,  Archon Basileus Kadoshim. WE, personally, should not begrudge a nation filled with a conniving press to ask it to lie for once, at least, in their nation's interest.  The American press sometimes seem more interested in destroying their own nation than in protecting it.
2.  WE were shocked that the New York Times, against all pleading from it's President's administration, decided to publish how that government was looking at money transfers to terrorists, thereby advising their nation's enemies of a tool that the government was using to fight evil.  Were WE to find such persons in the press in OUR kingdom, WE are not certain if WE could restrain OURSELVES from having them hanged, rather than merely confined for an indeterminate time.
3.  Other than the editorial section, WE believe a normal person would expect reporting in a newspaper or news organization to be objective.  Sadly, the press, by their choices of words and stories, in OUR minds, seem to be trying to persuade the public.  This persuasion also, generally, seems intent on social experimentation and the institution of failed socialism and communism.
4.  WE designed this question to be a companion to the first question, since WE, personally, did not see anything wrong with a press trying to aid it's government against evil for a change.  Some press organizations are nearly famous for omitting parts of statements and thereby changing the entire tone and meaning of the actual words that were spoken at an event, also known "out of context".  Imagine that the effect might be leaving out the word "not" when a person stated that, "accused criminal should not be lynched by an angry mob it freed by the judicial system".  Also they are known to print stories that are pure hear-say.

: Re: Freedom of the Press???
: hippish people November 30, 2008, 04:19:23 PM
1. No- let them print what they wish as long as it is factual
2. no- see above
3. yes- I wish it did not happen but that would then take the fun out of following the media  :)
4. no- see first answer

Sorry it took me so long to reply but it has indeed been a very hectic week.

King Chester, I sense a great deal of anger towards the NY times and general press please explain this a little further for I am genuinely curious about this point of view.

: Re: Freedom of the Press???
: King Chester November 30, 2008, 09:18:26 PM
Ideally, WE, too, would prefer an honest press.  WE simply don't expect it.  Therefore, WE see no reason why students and masters of "creative writing" should not be creative in a patriotic cause.

There are other newspapers.  WE singled out the N.Y. Times solely for their actions regarding the SWIFT program that was being used to track the financial movement of terrorist funding.  WE believe that the U.S. government was too lax in dealing with those who endangered their nation's citizens, simply to generate  bad feelings for their President's administration and to sell newspapers.  WE find that irresponsible.

WE believe that slanting stories creates false impressions and therefore bias outside of the editorial is akin to lying.

WE agree.  Again, WE find the modern press likes to distort the truth.

WE are only human, WE become outraged at stupidity and evil.

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